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	<title>Comments on: Designers AND Developers&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geeze, Steph, I am well ahean of you.... Did you read this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.digital-web.com/articles/education_of_freaks_and_geeks/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geeze, Steph, I am well ahean of you&#8230;. Did you read this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.digital-web.com/articles/education_of_freaks_and_geeks/" rel="nofollow">http://www.digital-web.com/articles/education_of_freaks_and_geeks/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stef.</title>
		<link>http://blog.w3conversions.com/2008/06/designers-and-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-3646</link>
		<dc:creator>Stef.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you! And that&#039;s the sad part of our business. Perhaps it&#039;s the woman in me, but, &quot;Can&#039;t we all just get along?&quot; I do pride myself in being the type of person that can facilitate collaboration. However, I hate project management and that&#039;s usually the role I have to be in to do that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recognizing that we all have our place, and our value, is somewhere I wish we could arrive. But I understand your &quot;real world&quot; experience. We can dream though, eh?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Visualize whirled peas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you! And that&#8217;s the sad part of our business. Perhaps it&#8217;s the woman in me, but, &#8220;Can&#8217;t we all just get along?&#8221; I do pride myself in being the type of person that can facilitate collaboration. However, I hate project management and that&#8217;s usually the role I have to be in to do that.</p>
<p>Recognizing that we all have our place, and our value, is somewhere I wish we could arrive. But I understand your &#8220;real world&#8221; experience. We can dream though, eh?</p>
<p>Visualize whirled peas.</p>
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		<title>By: thinman</title>
		<link>http://blog.w3conversions.com/2008/06/designers-and-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-3645</link>
		<dc:creator>thinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but arrogance, ego, and territorialism often pervade the web shops and the the clients we serve.  It&#039;s the rare individual, indeed, who can ameliorate the megalomaniacs, and get folks to the utopia of true collaboration.  Whenever that fails, and the db guy bails, I step in.  When the designers drop like flies, I step in, when the execs have 11th hour issues, I step in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;d love to surround myself with the best and the brightest.  But those folks often seem more concerned with the fact that they float DIVs in their sleep or aggregate db views for lunch, rather than actually DOING the gig.  Sorry for the rant.  I&#039;m just a frustrated freelancer who finds it hard to know who to trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but arrogance, ego, and territorialism often pervade the web shops and the the clients we serve.  It&#8217;s the rare individual, indeed, who can ameliorate the megalomaniacs, and get folks to the utopia of true collaboration.  Whenever that fails, and the db guy bails, I step in.  When the designers drop like flies, I step in, when the execs have 11th hour issues, I step in.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to surround myself with the best and the brightest.  But those folks often seem more concerned with the fact that they float DIVs in their sleep or aggregate db views for lunch, rather than actually DOING the gig.  Sorry for the rant.  I&#8217;m just a frustrated freelancer who finds it hard to know who to trust.</p>
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