Comments on: The Days of Whine and Browser Sniffing … http://blog.w3conversions.com/2005/05/the-days-of-whine-and-browser-sniffing/ realizations on life, the web, and everything Mon, 16 Mar 2015 06:43:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: David http://blog.w3conversions.com/2005/05/the-days-of-whine-and-browser-sniffing/comment-page-1/#comment-3256 David Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:54:03 +0000 http://www.communitymx.com/blog/index.cfm?newsid=476#comment-3256 Hmm. Firefox works for me. I agree that browser sniffers are sad. But it's pretty easy to tell them you're something else and get the page to load (e.g., with Firefox, one very simple way is with the User Agent Switcher extension). No need to give it much thought. Hmm. Firefox works for me. I agree that browser sniffers are sad. But it’s pretty easy to tell them you’re something else and get the page to load (e.g., with Firefox, one very simple way is with the User Agent Switcher extension). No need to give it much thought.

]]> By: Mike http://blog.w3conversions.com/2005/05/the-days-of-whine-and-browser-sniffing/comment-page-1/#comment-3255 Mike Thu, 19 May 2005 13:46:48 +0000 http://www.communitymx.com/blog/index.cfm?newsid=476#comment-3255 Firefox doesnt work anyway. Every site I go to shifts left and right and is quite annoying. Until at least that is corrected, IE is still for me. Firefox doesnt work anyway. Every site I go to shifts left and right and is quite annoying. Until at least that is corrected, IE is still for me.

]]> By: Mark Wubben http://blog.w3conversions.com/2005/05/the-days-of-whine-and-browser-sniffing/comment-page-1/#comment-3254 Mark Wubben Thu, 12 May 2005 12:07:38 +0000 http://www.communitymx.com/blog/index.cfm?newsid=476#comment-3254 Sure, that sucks. But what also sucks is that the link to the comments goes through a JavaScript pop-up, and for some reason pop-ups aren't working anymore in Firefox. <br /> <br />You should listen to Aaron Boodman: http://youngpup.net/2003/popups <br /> <br />P.S. I managed to book the flight yesterday, slightly more expensive but the times are better. Sure, that sucks. But what also sucks is that the link to the comments goes through a JavaScript pop-up, and for some reason pop-ups aren’t working anymore in Firefox.

You should listen to Aaron Boodman: http://youngpup.net/2003/popups

P.S. I managed to book the flight yesterday, slightly more expensive but the times are better.

]]> By: Stef. http://blog.w3conversions.com/2005/05/the-days-of-whine-and-browser-sniffing/comment-page-1/#comment-3253 Stef. Thu, 12 May 2005 02:07:08 +0000 http://www.communitymx.com/blog/index.cfm?newsid=476#comment-3253 I agree with you both. "Not supported" is just ridiculous. And it's quite obvious what it REALLY means since they're not even looking at NN7... It means this has been here for a long time and they haven't bothered to update it. It also likely means that, unless they're doing something really strange with those interactive maps, they would probably work in my browser. Would be nice if they wanted to let me know that it might not (an alert or something) but then let me attempt it if I wanted to. <br /> <br />Don't make my decision for me or lock me out. I hate that. :P I agree with you both. “Not supported” is just ridiculous. And it’s quite obvious what it REALLY means since they’re not even looking at NN7… It means this has been here for a long time and they haven’t bothered to update it. It also likely means that, unless they’re doing something really strange with those interactive maps, they would probably work in my browser. Would be nice if they wanted to let me know that it might not (an alert or something) but then let me attempt it if I wanted to.

Don’t make my decision for me or lock me out. I hate that. :P

]]> By: John Dowdell http://blog.w3conversions.com/2005/05/the-days-of-whine-and-browser-sniffing/comment-page-1/#comment-3252 John Dowdell Wed, 11 May 2005 23:32:40 +0000 http://www.communitymx.com/blog/index.cfm?newsid=476#comment-3252 Didn't let me in with a current Firefox. Wacky. <br /> <br />One of my pet peeves is that phrase "not supported"... doesn't really mean anything. A visitor can't tell whether their current browser was tested and failed, wasn't tested, may work or may not work... I've seen this inside tech support, the vaporous phrase "not supported" is sometimes used as if the speaker is actually saying something.... <br /> <br />The following identity test seems like it would be better as a capabilities test, true...? <br /> <br />function checkBrowser(){ <br /> this.ver=navigator.appVersion; <br /> this.dom=document.getElementById?1:0; <br /> this.ie4=(document.all && !this.dom)?1:0; <br /> this.ie5=(this.ver.indexOf("MSIE 5")>-1 && this.dom && navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Opera") <= 0 && navigator.appVersion.indexOf("MSIE 5.5") <=0)?1:0; <br /> this.ie55=(navigator.appVersion.indexOf("MSIE 5.5") > 0) ? 1 : 0; <br /> this.ie6=(navigator.appVersion.indexOf("MSIE 6") > 0) ? 1 : 0; <br /> this.ns4=(document.layers && !this.dom)?1:0; <br /> this.ns6=(navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Netscape6") > 0) ? 1 : 0; <br /> this.op4=(navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Opera 4") > 0) ? 1 : 0; <br /> this.bw=(this.ie4 || this.ie5 || this.ie55 || this.ie6 || this.ns4 || this.ns6) ? 1 : 0; <br /> return this; <br />} <br /> Didn’t let me in with a current Firefox. Wacky.

One of my pet peeves is that phrase “not supported”… doesn’t really mean anything. A visitor can’t tell whether their current browser was tested and failed, wasn’t tested, may work or may not work… I’ve seen this inside tech support, the vaporous phrase “not supported” is sometimes used as if the speaker is actually saying something….

The following identity test seems like it would be better as a capabilities test, true…?

function checkBrowser(){

this.ver=navigator.appVersion;

this.dom=document.getElementById?1:0;

this.ie4=(document.all && !this.dom)?1:0;

this.ie5=(this.ver.indexOf(“MSIE 5″)>-1 && this.dom && navigator.userAgent.indexOf(“Opera”) < = 0 && navigator.appVersion.indexOf("MSIE 5.5") <=0)?1:0;

this.ie55=(navigator.appVersion.indexOf(“MSIE 5.5″) > 0) ? 1 : 0;

this.ie6=(navigator.appVersion.indexOf(“MSIE 6″) > 0) ? 1 : 0;

this.ns4=(document.layers && !this.dom)?1:0;

this.ns6=(navigator.userAgent.indexOf(“Netscape6″) > 0) ? 1 : 0;

this.op4=(navigator.userAgent.indexOf(“Opera 4″) > 0) ? 1 : 0;

this.bw=(this.ie4 || this.ie5 || this.ie55 || this.ie6 || this.ns4 || this.ns6) ? 1 : 0;

return this;

}

]]> By: Chris Charlton http://blog.w3conversions.com/2005/05/the-days-of-whine-and-browser-sniffing/comment-page-1/#comment-3251 Chris Charlton Wed, 11 May 2005 20:09:41 +0000 http://www.communitymx.com/blog/index.cfm?newsid=476#comment-3251 Well, if you notice, Netscape 7 isn't even on the list. So, they're obviously lagging behind in maintaining any of their browser base. <br /> <br />I wonder if anyone is even looking at their own stats there, since they should see some Safari, Opera, and regular Mozilla users passing through and getting that "error" page. Well, if you notice, Netscape 7 isn’t even on the list. So, they’re obviously lagging behind in maintaining any of their browser base.

I wonder if anyone is even looking at their own stats there, since they should see some Safari, Opera, and regular Mozilla users passing through and getting that “error” page.

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